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‘The Walking Dead’s’ Sarah Wayne Callies: Lori ‘Has to Die’

Rick and Lori are so not in a good place when Season 3 of AMC’s The Walking Dead returns Oct. 14.

Rick (Andrew Lincon) put an abrupt end to the awkward love triangle between himself, wife Lori (Sarah Wayne Callies) and Shane (Jon Bernthal) in the penultimate episode of Season 2, greatly impacting his marriage and the group. The beleaguered ex-sheriff paid the price when Rick revealed to his pregnant spouse that he (well, Carl technically) ended her former lover’s life — and that everyone was already infected.

“The bomb that went off between Rick and Lori in the final episode of the second season was not, ‘Oh my God, you told me to kill Shane, oh my God, you killed Shane’ — the bomb that went off was I wanted to kill Shane,” Callies told reporters at The Walking Dead’s 100th issue party in San Diego.

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With Shane continuing his pursuit of Lori — and convinced that she was pregnant with his baby — Lori planted a dangerous seed in Rick’s mind when she suggested that his former best friend could pose a bigger threat to them than he’d imagined.

Callies told anxious Walking Dead fans this month at Comic-Con that she thinks Lori “did everything she could to handle Shane; she didn’t tell Rick to kill him, she told him to watch his back and she was right — and the right man ended up winning that fight.”

With the group out of the quiet safety of the farm and headed to the prison and Woodbury, where they’ll encounter characters including the feared Governor (David Morrissey), Lori is now concerned that Rick is turning into someone unrecognizable.

“Lori’s fear is that in killing Shane, Rick became Shane and that he’s turned into a man who’s not a humane, compassionate person but somebody who is now somewhat cold and bloodthirsty,” Callies says.

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Rick’s shift became evident in the closing moments of the Season 2 finale when Lincoln’s leader says the words that gave birth to the so-called “Ricktatorship”: “This isn’t a democracy anymore,” with the character coming off of the hardest period he’s had yet.

“He’s sick and tired of people dragging their heels and talking,” Lincoln told reporters. “It’s at that point that he’s gone through the worst 48 hours since the killing of Shane; he’s had to kill his best friend for this group of people and he’s furious and he’s conflicted.”

As the group heads for the apparent safety that could be found with taking up residence behind bars at a prison, Rick and Lori will have to face the crumbling nature of their marriage, including Lori’s disgust at her husband’s brutal act of violence as well as her own role in Shane’s death.

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“Part of that horror you saw in that last episode was revulsion in part in ,” showrunner Glen Mazzara says. “I think she blames herself. I don’t know if she did intend to put Rick in motion but she did. They have to deal with that. She’s pregnant, they don’t know whose child that is … they can’t get divorced. How do you repair that marriage in front of everybody?”

In the Robert Kirkman comics on which the series is based, Lori gives birth to a baby girl not long before the prison faces an intense attack at the hands of the Governor, with both mother and daughter’s attempts to escape the onslaught ending in tragedy.

It’s a part of the story that greatly shapes who Rick becomes that Callies feels is necessary to incorporate into the AMC zombie drama.

” Frank Darabont and I actually — before he was tragically and unfairly removed from the show — we used to argue about it,” Callies says. “I argued that it was necessary to kill Lori and I feel very strongly that for all of the other deviations we may have from the comic book, killing Lori does something to Rick that is vital for the story and can’t be done any other way.”

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“I’ve said from the beginning, not only am I OK with Lori dying but I think she has to,” says Callies, who notes that it’s part of the nature of the beast with being on a show like The Walking Dead. “I’ve played this character with an eye toward an end.”

For his part, Lincoln noted that it’s at this point in the story that his comic book counterpart is at his best. ” is a man that begins in one place as a sheriff, he couldn’t be more of an embodiment of law and order and he just gets thrown into this leadership role,” he says, making decisions that are both wrong and great. “You’re still rooting for this guy though actually he hasn’t made some of the greatest decisions because he’s driven by a moral center.”

“We’re coming into an area of the show that’s about marrying two very brilliant comic book characters and making them fit into this raw, grungy, emotional world and making the two worlds meet and the combustibility of these two worlds,” he adds.

While the series granted an eleventh-hour reprieve for Hershel (Scott Wilson) — Mazzara and company decided his death would have played as “gratuitous” — Kirkman says he has toyed with killing Rick before in the bloody comics.

“There was a moment very early on in the book — in the sixth issue — I almost killed Rick instead of Shane because I was thinking it might be neat to make Shane the main character and have the book be about him being in charge and how Carl deals with the fact that his father is dead and his mother is shacking up with this guy,” Kirkman says, noting that the notion of killing the series lead has never come up on the show.

Do you think Lori needs to die on The Walking Dead? Would you be sad to see her go? Hit the comments with your thoughts. Season 3 of The Walking Dead begins Oct. 14 on AMC. Keep checking back to THR’s The Live Feed for more updates from The Walking Dead cast.

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The Top 10 Carl Grimes Moments From The Walking Dead

This year’s Walking Dead Mid-Season Finale ended on a somber note as it was revealed Carl was bitten and dying in the sewer while Negan destroyed Alexandria above. Until we get closure, let’s remember the top Carl Grimes moments from The Walking Dead.

10. Carl Starts All Out War (Season 7, Episode 16)

We’re starting off this countdown with the inciting incident of All Out War. Following Sasha’s (mostly) successful plan to attack and distract Negan as a walker – Carl decides to start the war by shooting his Scavenger captors and beginning a massive shoot-out in Alexandria between his people, The Saviors, The Scavengers, and eventually The Hilltop and Kingdom.

9. Carl Sacrifices His Arm (Season 7, Episode 1)

Next up is this emotionally draining moment from the Season 7 Premiere. As if brutally murdering Abraham and Glenn weren’t enough (spoiler alert), Negan chooses to REALLY test Rick by demanding he cut Carl’s arm off or he’ll kill all of his friends. This is the straw that nearly broke Rick’s back. Thankfully, Carl accepts his fate and tells his dad it’s OK. That takes balls, and even though Negan stopped Rick before he could cut Carl’s arm off, it still showed how heroic Carl could be.

8. Carl Shows No Mercy (Season 3, Episode 16)

Our eighth best moment on our list takes us back to Season 3 when our heroes still lived at The Prison and The Governor was very much still alive (and a dick). Speaking of the Gov, one of his Woodbury soldiers Jody runs into Carl and Hershel in the woods. Carl draws his gun and Jody immediately surrenders – he even slowly starts handing his gun to Carl. BUT, Carl shoots and kills him anyway – leaving Hershel horrified. Carl later explains to Rick that he was just doing what needed to be done, but Hershel tells Rick Carl killed him in cold blood – leaving Rick very concerned. It seemed to be a huge turning point for Carl.

7. Carl Reunites With Rick (Season 1, Episode 3)

Let’s take a break from those depressing Carl scenes and return to something happy – his reunion with his presumed dead dad Rick. After Rick settling into a survival camp outside of Atlanta and beginning to accept his new father figure Shane, Carl’s world was ROCKED when his dad came back from the grave and showed up at his camp.

6. Carl Finds Pudding (Season 4, Episode 9)

Speaking of Carl and Rick, our 6th best moment on the list comes during Season’s 4 Mid-Season Premiere, when the prison was destroyed, everyone was scattered, and Carl had to tend to his father. Of course, the real Carl moments come when he’s bonding with Rick, yelling at Rick, and going all Jiggy Jar Jar Do. But what most remember from the episode is when he takes a break and sits on the roof of a (mostly) abandoned house devouring a tub of chocolate pudding. Sure, Carl has been forced to grow up and make tough decisions, but sometimes a kid just wants to dive head-first into a barrel of chocolatey goodness.

5. Carl Gets Shot Through The Chest (Season 2, Episode 1)

We’re turning back the clocks again for number 5 on the list. Back in Season 2 – after escaping the overrun Atlanta camp and CDC our group was enjoying a nice day in the woods UNTIL Carl was accidentally shot through the chest! We later discover Otis, a member of Hershel’s farm, accidentally shot through the deer and into Carl, which led Rick to running to the farm to care for his dying boy. Thankfully, Hershel nursed him back to health and Rick’s group merged with Hershel’s and together they lived happily ever after…*whispering* except for Hershel, Beth, Glenn, you get the point.

4. Carl Infiltrates The Sanctuary (Season 7, Episode 7)

Time for number four, DAMN Carl got old. In Season 7, the Grimes boy decided he was done working for Negan and seeing his friends get killed. So, he snuck on a Savior truck, tricked Jesus into bailing, and when he arrived at The Sanctuary he unleashed ALL HOLY HELL ON THE SAVIORS. Actually, he only killed two of them, but it was still enough to impress Negan – who made a take your servant’s kid-to-work-day out of it. After some weird moments (like Negan making him sing and watching a guy get his face ironed) Negan returned Carl to Alexandria safe and sound.

3. Carl Loses An Eye (Season 6, Episode 9)

Our third best Carl moment happened the previous season when one of the most iconic comic book moments played out in the show. During a walker invasion of Alexandria Rick, Michonne, Carl, and the rest tried to sneak their way out of town in walker gut ponchos. Unfortunately, it was too much for Jessie’s kid Sam to handle and his freak out got him and Jessie eaten. Jessie’s other son Ron blames Rick for his family dying, points a gun at him, and gets stabbed through the chest by Michonne before he could kill Rick. Unfortunately, his gun went off anyway and hit Carl straight in the eye. Miraculously, Denise was able to save him but Carl’s eye would be lost forever.

2. Carl Kills Lori (Season 3, Episode 4)

One of the most brutal things Carl has ever had to do was kill his mom. While in labor at the prison, Lori bravely tells Carl to watch over Rick and the baby. Maggie then performs an emergency C-section, which kills Lori but saves baby Judith. Carl then does what needs to be done – put his mother down once and for all before she turns. It happens offscreen, but it shows how far Carl has been pushed to go in this apocalypse. It also begins a downward spiral for Rick.

1. Carl Puts Down Shane (Season 2, Episode 12)

Our top Carl moment happened in Season 2 when Carl was forced to put down his quasi-father figure Shane. Quick refresher: Dale had just died, Shane was isolated from the group, Lori tried to bring him back, it backfired, Shane tells Rick he’s not good for the group anymore and should leave, and then Rick stabs Shane. Carl, who was looking for Randall, had watched the whole thing, saw Shane return as a walker, and then shot and killed him to save his father. It was a pivotal moment that showed Carl could be strong and do what was necessary to protect his family. It’s clear Shane wasn’t part of that picture – and it began Carl’s journey into becoming more and more like Rick.

So there you have it! What was YOUR favorite Carl moment? Did we miss any? Let us know in the comments!

We all need a refresher from time to time, especially for a show that’s taken on a life of its own. The Walking Dead has done exactly that since its debut in 2010. Across nine seasons, the show’s seen a rotating cast of regulars, messy relationships, and several heart-pounding departures – some you may have forgotten completely.

So, in preparation for The Walking Dead season 10, which airs this coming weekend, we’re taking you through a beat-by-beat tour of all the headline moments, including all the loves and major losses that come with it. Here is our complete Walking Dead recap.

Spoilers follow for The Walking Dead seasons 1-9.

The Walking Dead recap: season 1

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What happens in The Walking Dead season 1?

Where it all began. The Walking Dead season 1 starts with Rick Grimes, a sheriff’s deputy, waking from a coma after being shot. He encounters a world filled with ‘walkers’, and heads to Georgia to reunite with his family – wife Lori and son, Carl.

Along the way, he comes across Morgan and his son, Duane, though eventually leaves them after hearing of a refugee camp. In Georgia, he befriends Glenn, a survivor scavenging for goods, as well as redneck Merle and T-Dogg. The gang handcuff Merle and leave him stranded on a roof – but later return to find him gone, with no sign of a body.

Rick finally reaches the camp housing both Lori and Carl, as well as his best friend/former colleague, Shane, who has started a relationship with Lori, unbeknownst to Rick. The camp also includes the rest of the group that would form a core part of the first season: Daryl (Merle’s brother), Amy, Andrea, Morales, Carol & Ed (along with daughter Sophia), Jim, Dale, and Jacqui.

During an excursion, a group of walkers attack the camp and kill Amy and Carol’s husband, Ed. The gang eventually depart for the Centre for Disease Control (CDC), hoping a cure will be found there, though Morales goes his own way and Jim stays behind. However, the lead scientist at the CDC informs them there isn’t a cure, rigs the CDC to self-destruct and dies from suicide alongside a resigned Jacqui, but not before imparting Rick with some (at the time) unknown knowledge about the walker virus.

Moments to remember – our season 1 cheat sheet

  • Rick wakes up from a coma and meets Glenn, Merle, and T-Dog in Georgia
  • The group return to the survivors’ camp, where Rick reunites with his wife Lori and son Carl
  • Walkers attack the camp and kill two survivors: Amy and Carol’s husband, Ed
  • The gang head to the CDC in the hope of a cure but are told there isn’t one

Who died in The Walking Dead season 1?

  • Amy (killed by a walker)
  • Ed (killed by a walker)
  • Jacqui (suicide in CDC explosion)

The Walking Dead recap: season 2

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What happens in The Walking Dead season 2?

The vast majority of season 2 takes place on the farm of elderly doctor Hershel, also populated by his two daughters Maggie and Beth. The gang head there after Carl is accidentally shot and Carol’s daughter Sophia goes missing.

Otis, the man who shot Carl, is eventually left for dead by Shane while out on a hunt for supplies. Carl, meanwhile, eventually recovers from his wounds and Lori discovers she is pregnant.

Glenn starts a relationship with Maggie, though a late-night meet-up eventually turns sour after Glenn discovers Hershel’s barn is filled with captive walkers.

Eventually, the group of survivors decide to open the barn. Inside, Sophia is found, but she’s long since died and turned into a walker; Rick kills her reanimated corpse.

Filled with grief, Hershel goes to a nearby bar but is attacked by a gang. Rick and Shane make the save and haul one member, Randall, back to the farm. Despite debating over his fate, Shane decides to take initiative and secretly kills him. A large group of walkers also descends on the farm – one kills Dale after Carl fails to use it for shooting practice.

Finally, Rick kills Shane after it’s clear that Shane is becoming more frenzied. Walkers invade the farm and Rick relays the CDC scientist’s warning that everyone who dies will turn into a walker. The group all escape, barring Andrea who is split from the group and rescued by a mysterious woman, later revealed to be Michonne.

Moments to remember – our season 2 cheat sheet

  • Carol’s daughter, Sophia, goes missing after running off into the woods
  • Carl is accidentally shot by wandering hunter, Otis and the boy is operated on by the local doctor Hershel on his farm
  • Shane leaves Otis for dead
  • Glenn and Hershel’s eldest daughter, Maggie, start a relationship
  • Lori is revealed to be pregnant
  • Glenn finds out the barn on Hershel’s farm is filled with walkers, who Hershel believes to be still people
  • Sophia is found – she is a walker and Rick is forced to kill her
  • A gang attack Hershel, Rick, and Shane. They capture one, Randall, and take him back to the farm
  • Dale is killed by a stray walker
  • Shane murders Randall, but lies about it, saying instead that he escaped
  • Rick kills Shane after the two clash – Carl finishes the job with a headshot on an undead Shane
  • Walkers invade the farm
  • Rick tells the group the CDC scientist’s words: that everyone will turn into a walker once they die
  • The group escape the farm, though Andrea gets separated from the group and is found by the katana-wielding Michonne

Who died in The Walking Dead season 2?

  • Otis (killed by walkers after Shane shoots him)
  • Sophia (killed by walkers off-screen then shot by Rick)
  • Dale (killed by walker)
  • Randall (killed by Shane)
  • Shane (killed by Rick)
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The Walking Dead recap: season 3

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What happens in The Walking Dead season 3?

Season 3 kicks off eight months after season 2 ended, with Rick and the survivors taking back a prison from the walkers to use as a new home. Lori, meanwhile, is heavily pregnant with her second child.

During the battle for the prison, Hershel is bitten on the leg and has it amputated to avoid turning. The remaining prisoners are, ironically, held captive by the group in a different wing of the prison.

Andrea and Michonne are taken in by Merle, who now aligns with the community of Woodbury and their leader, The Governor.

Back at the prison, walkers are lured in by alarms and all hell breaks loose: T-Dog is killed trying to save Carol, while Lori gives birth to a daughter, Judith, and Carl is forced to mercifully kill his own mother.

Michonne leaves Woodbury and, after Merle captures Glenn and Maggie, takes some much-needed supplies to a depleted prison. After recuperating, everyone heads over to Woodbury to take back Glenn and Maggie – and Michonne stabs the Governor in the eye.

The second half of the season sees Woodbury eventually liberated from the Governor’s control, but not without casualties. Merle is killed thanks to The Governor, as is Andrea, who secretly worked against The Governor. The remaining main Woodbury residents, siblings Sasha and Tyreese, are invited into the prison community.

Moments to remember – our season 3 cheat sheet

  • The group set up base in the prison
  • Hershel has his leg amputated after a walker bite
  • Andrea and Michonne go to live in Woodbury, a community ruled by The Governor
  • T-Dog dies while trying to save Carol
  • Lori gives birth to a daughter and dies
  • Glenn and Maggie are captured by The Governor
  • Merle is killed thanks to The Governor’s actions
  • Andrea dies after turning on The Governor
  • Woodbury is overrun by walkers
  • Sasha and Tyreese, who used to live in Woodbury, join the main group

Who died in The Walking Dead season 3?

  • T-Dog (killed by walkers)
  • Lori (killed by Carl after childbirth blood loss)
  • Merle (killed by walkers)
  • Andrea (killed by Milton, The Governor’s right-hand man)

The Walking Dead recap: season 4

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What happens in The Walking Dead season 4?

Things at the prison soon spiral out of control thanks to a disease spread by livestock on the grounds. The group are forced to make some tough decisions, including quarantining the infected. Two of those with the disease, David and Tyreese’s girlfriend, Karen, are murdered – the culprit is later revealed to be Carol.

The Governor also strikes back at the prison – and encounters the Chambler family (Lilly, Tara, and Megan). He kidnaps Michonne and Hershel, executing the latter and starting an all-out war at the prison. The Governor is eventually defeated and killed by Lilly, while the original group of survivors fracture and go their separate ways in the chaos, with Judith being taken in by Carol and Tyreese.

One large group begins to form, consisting of Daryl, Beth, Carol, Tyreese, Judith, sisters Lizzie and Mika, Sasha, Bob, and Maggie, while Glenn meets Abraham, Rosita and Eugene, who are on the way to Washington D.C. to sort a cure. Rick, Michonne, and Carl hunt for the remaining members of the group.

All roads, though, lead to Terminus, a promising new community. Along the way, Carol is forced to kill Lizzie after she kills her sister and Beth is also captured by a mysterious set of strangers. Everyone, barring Carol’s group, is eventually captured at Terminus – though Rick ends the season with a rallying cry, banding together the new ensemble, featuring those that Glenn found, the surviving members of the prison, and Tara.

Moments to remember – our season 4 cheat sheet

  • Many become infected at the prison thanks to a virus
  • David and Karen are mysteriously killed
  • The Governor beheads Hershel in one final assault on the prison but is killed himself
  • The group are all split up after the prison is overrun
  • Beth is abducted
  • Everyone barring Carol, Judith, and Tyreese reunite at Terminus – but are held at gunpoint by the leader, Gareth.

Who died in The Walking Dead season 4?

  • Hershel (beheaded by The Governor)
  • The Governor (killed by Lilly Chambler)
  • Lilly (killed off-screen by walkers)
  • Mika (stabbed by Lizzie)
  • Lizzie (shot by Carol)

The Walking Dead recap: season 5

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What happens in The Walking Dead season 5?

The first half of the season deals with the recovery of Beth, who is found working under the watchful eye of Dawn, a crazed police officer-turned-hospital leader. This all comes after an explosive opening episode which sees Carol dispatch much of Terminus’ members while also rescuing the group.

Rick meets Father Gabriel, who consigned much of his parish to their eventual deaths in the wake of the walker outbreak. While there, the ex-leader of Terminus, Gareth, leads his remaining group to attack and kill Bob.

Later attempts to rescue Beth include Carol being wheeled i to the hospital after an accident, though it ends in tragedy after Beth stabs Dawn and Dawn kills Beth. Sasha’s brother Tyreese also dies during a trip to rescue hospital worker Noah’s family.

After Eugene lies about having a cure, the group divert their attention to the walled community of Alexandria after they are invited by one of its residents, Aaron. Things eventually descend into paranoia aimed at the new members of Alexandria with one Alexandrian, Pete, becoming jealous over Rick’s attention towards his wife. Despite initial protests against his hardened attitude, the Alexandrians (and their leader, Deanna) eventually warm towards Rick, who is forced to kill Pete after he accidentally stabs Deanna’s husband, Reg.

The season ends with scavengers The Wolves on the outskirts of Alexandria and Morgan returning after brief appearances in the pilot and in season 3.

Moments to remember – our season 5 cheat sheet

  • Carol rescues the group in Terminus
  • Rick reunites with Judith
  • The group meet Father Gabriel
  • Bob and Tyreese both die
  • Carol is also abducted by the same group that took Beth
  • We discover Beth is now working at a makeshift hospital
  • Eugene lied about having a cure
  • Beth dies
  • The group befriend Aaron, a member of the town of Alexandria, and settle into the community
  • The Wolves scout out Alexandria
  • Morgan returns

Who died in The Walking Dead season 5?

The Walking Dead: Homemade Big Cat Bars

Homemade Big Cat Bars

I actually looked these up to see if they’re a real candy bar. They’re not…if you were curious.

UPDATE: apparently they were a real chocolate bar back in the 80s/90s! Thank you to Christine for letting me know!

In Season 4 Episode 15, as Carl and Michonne are walking down the train tracks, they have a competition to see who can balance on the rail line the longest. Carl wins, but knowing that Big Cat Bars are Michonne’s favorite, offers to split it with her instead.

The recipe has a lot of slow, time-consuming steps, so I split it over the course of two days…today is Day 3, and I’m finally able to taste-test them! If you don’t have anywhere to be, though, then you can get this recipe completed within a day.

On Day 1, I started off by separating sugar wafer cookies from each other.

The recipe calls for “single-layer vanilla sugar wafer cookies.” I found vanilla wafer cookies, but they weren’t sugar wafers, which I’m pretty sure is something different. And I found vanilla sugar wafer cookies, but they all had two cookies layered with cream in between.

So I painstakingly separated each of the cookies until I had 72 wafers. This was probably the most time-consuming part, and hopefully you won’t need to deal with it! If you do need to separate them out, though, then I recommend inserting a thin, sharp knife into the cream layer between the two wafer cookies to break them apart.

Once the cookies were ready, caramels and cream were melted together in a double boiler and spread in between the cookie layers – 3 cookie layers total, and 2 layers of caramel.

The caramel was still very sticky, and didn’t spread very well. Instead of “spreading to cover the surface,” I put a large dollop smeared across the middle as best I could, and then I squished the cookies together so the caramel squeezed out the sides and covered more surface area.

Then the cookies were put into the fridge until the next day.

On Day 2, I got the double boiler started again so I could melt chocolate. Once the chocolate was melted and puffed cereal was mixed in, the cold cookies were dipped into the chocolate mixture to coat, and left to harden on a baking sheet for several hours (or in my case, overnight).

The chocolate bars were very good! Not as good as the Kit Kat bars they are based on, but delicious nonetheless!

Taste: 9/10

These were delicious! Not the same as store-bought candy bars, but definitely a tasty treat. I think the bittersweet chocolate overpowered the caramel a bit too much, and would probably try with milk chocolate instead next time.

Difficulty: Challenging

The caramel can be difficult to work with. Even after it was melted, it was very thick and did not spread easily.

And using a double boiler is never a favorite of mine!

Cost: Above Average

You’ll need to purchase soft caramels, single-layer vanilla sugar wafer cookies, bittersweet chocolate, and puffed rice cereal. You may need to purchase heavy cream as well.


I found I didn’t need as much chocolate as is listed in the recipe – I recommend using less than suggested, and only melting more if needed.

Warning: There are major spoilers in this post.

If you feel like you missed a lot in last night’s midseason premiere of The Walking Dead because you were distracted by sheer heartbreak, you’re not alone. “Honor” hinged on the harrowing death of a beloved and long-standing character, in a development that is stunningly bleak even by the standards of this show.

Carl Grimes is dead, and The Walking Dead will never be the same. Last year’s midseason finale ended on the devastating revelation that Carl had been bitten by a walker, but his fate was left just ambiguous enough for some fans to hold out hope – after all, this show has pulled off plenty of fake-outs. But this tragic twist was real, and last night’s quietly horrifying episode focused on Carl as he came to terms with his fate, said his goodbyes to Rick and Michonne, and finally shot himself before he could turn into a walker.

Here are five heartbreaking details you might have missed in “Honor.”

1. Carl’s fatal bite actually happened months ago.

The show jumps around a lot between storylines and even timelines, so if you were confused by exactly when Carl’s meant to have been bitten, that’s deliberate. But as showrunner Scott Gimple confirmed on last night’s Talking Dead, Carl was actually bitten back in the sixth episode of season eight, which aired in November.

Insider has the full rundown of exactly where to pinpoint this very subtle moment of foreshadowing: In that episode, “The King, the Widow and Rick,” Carl is shown wrestling with two zombies, and there’s a moment when his expression turns to pure shock. In retrospect, this is likely when he was bitten. Aftewards, Siddiq asked if he was okay and Carl said yes.

“It’s been on screen,” Gimple said. “The aftermath is very much on screen. If you watch a certain episode and see Carl’s face, Chandler did it.” So although he downplays it in typically stoical Grimes fashion, Carl’s fate was sealed from this moment.


2. That candy bar has major significance.

This episode was jam-packed full of emotional callbacks for fans of Carl and Michonne’s relationship. Case in point: the candy bar Carl and Siddiq shared in the sewers. It’s a “Big Cat” candy bar (a.k.a. a Kit-Kat ripoff), which is the same candy bar Carl and Michonne have shared in the past.

Back in season four, episode 15 titled “Us,” Carl and Michonne keep themselves amused while scavenging by playing a game: whoever was able to stay on the railroad tracks they were walking along, got their pick of the two candy bars they found. Carl wins, and picks a Big Cat over a Cruncho bar – but ends up sharing it with Michonne anyway, because they always share. Tears, forever.

3. Michonne offering to kill Carl is a callback to an earlier conversation they shared.

Here’s another gut-punch: When Carl first reaches for his gun, Michonne stops him, “It should be – ” she begins, clearly about to say that she wants to be the one to end his life. “I know,” he replies. “Someone you love.” The pair actually discussed this very possibility a couple of seasons ago, in season six’s “The Next World,” Carl brings a newly-undead Deanna to her son Spencer for him to kill, rather than doing it himself. When Michonne asks him why, he explains: “I couldn’t kill her. It should be someone who loved her, someone who’s family. I’d do it for you.”

And so although Michonne ultimately volunteered to do it for Carl, he didn’t want to put her through that. Since he was still alive and cogent, he was able to end things himself instead of becoming a walker.

4. Carl’s notes included letters to Rick, Michonne, Judith, and Enid.

And though we couldn’t see what those letters said, it sounds like that gut-wrenching revelation is being saved for a future episode. “I honestly don’t know, because I don’t get any of the future scripts anymore, so I don’t know what’s going to happen,” Riggs told press during a conference call. “Or really what any of the letters say. I just kind of improvised and wrote down a bunch of random stuff on the letters on the day. But yeah, I really don’t know. I’m assuming they’ll show what my letters said at some point.”


5. Carl’s final words to Judith are a callback to their mom’s death.

Saving the most brutal for last, here. You’ll remember that Judith’s birth back in season three was also one of The Walking Dead’s most traumatic sequences ever, as Lori went into early labor during a walker attack, and had to be cut open for an emergency C-section which killed her. Not only did Carl witness this horror show; he also shot his mother in the head, to avoid her coming back to life as a walker.

Carl’s final words to his sister are a tribute to the mother she never knew: “Before mom died, she told me I was going to beat this world. I didn’t, but you will. I know you will,” he tells her. Right before she died, Lori told Carl “You promise me, you’ll always do what’s right. It’s so easy to do the wrong thing in this world. So if it feels wrong, don’t do it, all right? If it feels easy, don’t do it. Don’t let the world spoil you. You’re so good.”

And though Carl may feel as though he failed to live up to Lori’s request, it’s pretty clear that his inherent goodness has had a huge impact on Rick, and may be what finally pulls him back from the dark path he’s been on since going to war with Negan and the Saviors. In his final words to his dad, Carl begs him to consider a different way forward: “You can’t kill all of them dad. there has to be something after, for you, and for them. There’s got to be something after. I know you can’t see it yet, how it could be. I have.”

Carl was truly too pure for this world.

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Over time, it became clear how much Michonne trusted and needed Carl as well. When they were separated from the group in Season 4’s “Claimed,” Carl was distraught because he thought Judith was dead—which prompted Michonne to share, for the first time, her own story of grief. In the end, that cathartic moment was what prompted Rick to call Michonne Carl’s best friend—a line Carl echoed in Sunday’s midseason premiere. As Michonne answered Carl, “You’re mine, too.”

But perhaps the most crucial moment in Carl and Michonne’s friendship came later—when Carl felt himself consumed by darkness, positive he had become a monster beyond redemption. This was precisely one season after Carl shot a kid in the woods who had already surrendered—a moment Carl recalled on his death bed, saying “it was so easy” to kill that boy. When Carl revealed his morbid thoughts about himself and the world around him to Michonne in Season 4, she refused to let him give up. “I was gone for a long time,” she said, referring to her own extended period of callous grief. Carl and his family, she added, are the ones who brought her back.

In his final moments, Carl also reminded Rick of when he stopped fighting with the other group back at the prison, instead banding together. “We were enemies,” he recalled. “You put away your gun. You did it. So I could change. So I could be who I am now.” The other person who helped Carl become the person he is was Michonne, who responded to Carl’s grief and self-doubt in Season 4 by providing the optimistic path he sorely needed, someone who insists on reaching out and helping a stranger—a selfless move that, in the end, still got him bitten.

As viewers found out Sunday night, that rosy vision of the future we’ve been watching was actually Carl’s all along. He’s the one who sees the true potential for hope in the apocalypse—the one who appears to have gotten through to Rick, who has now vowed to make it happen. As Rick said in the season premiere—in a moment we now know was a flash-forward—“My mercy prevails over my wrath.” Had it not been for Michonne inspiring Carl, none of that would have been possible.

And then there’s one last moment between Carl and Michonne that had a much narrower impact. In Season 6, Michonne scolded Carl for leading a zombified Deanna to her son Spencer, despite the obvious risk to his own life. To Carl, Deanna deserved the mercy of being put down by someone she loved—just like he did for his own mother back in Season 3, when he was just a child. “I’d do it for you,” Carl told Michonne. By then, to Carl, Michonne was like his second mother. But as he lay dying in the midseason premiere, Carl chose a different path: he insisted on taking his own life. “I don’t want you to be sad after this,” he told her. “Or angry. You’re going to have to be strong for my dad. For Judith. For yourself . . . Don’t carry this. Not this part.”

When Carl reached for the gun to shoot himself, Michonne tried to stop him, saying, “It should be—”

“I know. I know,” Carl replied. “Somebody you love. But you can’t do it yourself if I still can. I grew up. I have to do this. Me.”

His final words to Michonne? “I love you.”

In the end, Carl forced both Rick and Michonne to step outside the burning Alexandria church once they had said their goodbyes. As the two sat outside, they could hear the gunshot. Even with his last breath, Carl chose self-sacrifice. Thanks to Michonne, he came back from the brink, and might have just become the one who saved everyone—not just in the short term by waiting out the Saviors’ bombing in the sewers, but in the long term, with a vision for a world without war.

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1 / 14Chevron Chevron Courtesy of AMC. Daryl Dixon This photo has a lot of layers—both literal and figurative. Clearly, the hat is a nod to the blistering sun—which, ostensibly, is also responsible for the impressive amount of sweat soaking through Daryl’s shirt. Then again, if it’s so hot, why on earth is Daryl—the king of bare biceps—wearing this loud button-down shirt? For the love of God, if we’re going to give him an unnecessary layer, make it aponcho.

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Sometimes a small, quiet scene can be as important as a big one. Take the moment between Michonne (Danai Gurira) and Carl (Chandler Riggs) on the porch in “The Next World.” Michonne had seen Carl out in the woods risking his life to herd zombie Deanna back to her son so Spencer could put her to rest, and she confronted Carl about it while he was getting ready to put baby Judith to bed. What followed was a tender exchange that demonstrated Michonne’s evolution back into a maternal figure, and led directly to the romantic encounter with Rick that followed it.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Tell me your thoughts about this scene between Michonne and Carl, because it’s a quiet scene, but also a pivotal one.

DANAI GURIRA: She has so much respect for him as the child soldier who’s weathered so much, and that’s so much a part of why she loves him and wants to protect him. But her approach, I felt, needed to be gentle and respectful, but then also clear and firm that we are going to have this conversation. And he is, of course, avoiding that. It was interesting to find the moments of where he has to finally open up about what exactly he was doing out there, and that moment takes her by great surprise.

And that was what was really a beautiful part of her evolution, was the realization that he looks at her with that level of regard and that she is actually that loved by him. She comes back to this young man who she just absolutely loved, and hears him affirm that fact by leaving her the position of mother in his heart. And I think that really makes her so emotionally open and available. That was really a climactic moment because that moment happening does cause her to have an open enough heart and available enough emotional space to have that next moment with his father.

Everyone talks about the Rick and Michonne connection now for obvious reasons, but the Michonne–Carl connection has always been just as significant, albeit in a different way.

He’s the one who actually brought her into the group. And so, from there on out, they have definitely had a deep and intimate bond. The loss of a child, many will say, is the worst loss one can have, and Carl still steps into that position of giving her a second experience with a young growing man that she lost with her own son. So he really is what opens the gates of her heart to be able to open up to Rick. I don’t know if she would’ve been able to respond to Rick’s touch in that next scene, honestly. I think she would’ve felt that electricity between her and him, but she probably would have said, “Okay, don’t stay up too late,” and said something cocky and jumped off to bed. But I think that what happened with Carl opens up her heart to give and receive the love. She’s like, this is my family.

It’s as if Carl almost in a way is giving her permission to let that moment with Rick happen.

Absolutely. He blesses her with this position in their home, and I think it gives her permission to be open and to let go a little bit and to let her heart actually express itself. The idea of having her heart touched so unexpectedly by Carl in that previous scene, it allows her heart to take the driver’s seat, and that is the moment where she’s able to actually see this man sitting in front of her, for what she’s actually seen him as but never really has acknowledged to herself.

You look at Michonne’s journey since we first met her, and how would you describe her evolution in terms of how she’s changed since then?

She was covered in armor that was impenetrable, and piece by piece, season by season, the armor’s been removed, but it hasn’t made her weak, it’s just made her strong in a different way. That warrior hasn’t gone away, but she started to find her voice and open up, having heart to hearts with Carl. That was a huge part of opening up the character, because then I found her heart. And I could feel her heart start to crack open year by year by year, more and more. And then, of course, the ultimate is when you start making out with Rick, which is a whole other level of the character opening up.

Finally, I have to know: How much did the baby playing Judith cooperate in this scene?

She was amazing! Every single take we did, when I would hug Chandler, she would be in his arms when I hugged him. And when I would break away from him, she would look up at me and reach out her arms for me to take her so she could hug me. Every single take. And I would have to take her and hug her and then I’d hug him again. I wish they’d used that, but they didn’t. It was incredibly adorable.

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The Walking Dead’s Carl spent some of his best and most important days in the apocalypse with his best friend Michonne, which might be why he considers the character to be a mother.

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In Carl’s farewell episode, the character got emotional in his farewells to the characters surviving him. In particular, he opened up to Michonne in a devastating way, calling her his “best friend” and telling her “I love you” just before preventing himself from reanimating as a walker. Though Carl chose “best friend” over “mom” in his last day, Chandler Riggs tells his character considers Michonne “a very mother-like figure.”

“I think for Carl, Michonne is definitely a very mother-like figure for him,” Riggs said. “They’ve always been really good friends and before Enid came along, she was probably his closest friend and the only person that he really opened up to. The same goes for her. She hadn’t told anyone about her kids and what happened with her when everything started. Yeah. I definitely think there’s a mother-like bond between Carl and Michonne.”

Ultimately, the decision not to call Michonne “mom” may have been a writing decision as Carl referenced his biological mother Lori several times in in the Mid-Season Eight premiere. Naming two people as such might lessen the impact of the term for some viewers.


In the end, Carl had his father and step-mother in mind. In fact, that is why he chose to shoot himself rather than allow them to do the horrible job. “I don’t think Rick or Michonne could ever truly recover from that,” executive producer and director of Episode 8×09 Greg Nicotero told “He’s already left them with a lot to think about in regards to what his dying wishes are. You know, he really is laying out the possibility what the future can be. He talks about the Governor, and he talks about Woodbury, and the fact that Rick in the past has been able to bring people back. What we realize is that all the flash forwards that we’d seen to this moment forward or this moment in the season where all Carl’s visions of the future and what Carl was really hoping. So he needs to leave Rick and Michonne with a sense of hope and a sense that there can be more for them to live for. So I don’t think it would have made much sense at all to actually physically see Carl die on screen or to have one of them do it.”

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